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Lady Roxanne


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Indeed, Lula. Because, he has still the memory of his "New York-Life".

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I know Sprocket, it's the cheeks!

It takes awhile though, Lula, remember the scenes leading up to that point, the shopping trip, and the temptation in the bowling alley, where he thinks he can do what he wants with no repercussions because it isn't real.



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Hi Sprocket, glad you could make it for a little while!



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Lady Roxanne


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But, Arnie is a good friend, because he tries to keep him from "making a mistake", by warning him, not to cheat on Kate.

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yes, it really does lady T! the transitional stage, and all the scenes within it,  is part of what makes the plot most compellng for me! 



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It's interesting, as you guys mentioned, that Jack is a pretty decent guy in both realities - he's never a Scrooge, for instance! So it's really about pitching two ideologies against each other: the man of business and the family man.

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And, then the scene, where he forgot his "anniversary". Seeing Kate exited, while giving him her gift, and then he realise, that he has no gift for her, and seeing her disapointment after that. And, with Annies help, figuring out, what would make a fitting gift for that.

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Ah yes, Arnie, Jeremy is great in this role. That scene near the beginning of the glimpse with Arnie is key, Nic has no clue that he is married to Kate till then really, he begins to understand a little bit of what Cash told him.

Well, all the transitional part is so good, and we haven't even talked about the romantic parts, lol!



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Do you all think the film would work if it wasn't a festive Christmas film? If, say, it had been set mid-summer? How much do you think the Christmasiness is essential to the tone and message?

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Yes, Sprocket, and i suppose the movie is taking the viewpoint that a family life, or sharing with others anyway, is always preferable.



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Lula Argante


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good point sprocket, and i think the film cleverly drops in little elements of each in the other, all the while  goading us almost to polarize the two completely!

not scrooge.. but i do see dickensian favours..and teh scene where he has all his employees in theoffice on christmas eve at the beginning comes to mind..



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Probably not, Sprocket, becasue a Christmas theme instantly sets us up with a feeling of sentimentality and family values, does't it?



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I guess, it wouldn`t have, because, the mood during the whole movie, is made for that seasonal time of year.

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Maybe he wouldn't have regretted his decision so much to choose a businessman's life if the experiment didn't take place at Christmas! XD

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The Christmas scene sets up Jack as a unsentimental business guy right away, Christmas Eve and still in the office. Then the whole family stuff happens right after, they immediately go into daily grind life, take the baby to day care and going to work. The ending brings us full circle, back to Christmas again, but with revelations made. it is scrooge-like in that way i guess.



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Lady Roxanne


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But, then, I guess, would it be a different kind of movie with a different story.

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Jack certainly seems to fall that side of the equation in the end..but i guess for the audience, it depends on our own values? is the moral of the story as simple as money doesn't buy you happiness? i certainly agree with that part, but don't necessarily agree family does either...or anything external.

happiness is our natural state when we stop wanting anything to be other than it is.

tada!!! Lula's moral of the day! chortle 



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haha Nic should totally make a Buddhist movie about the elimination of desire, Lula!

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Lula Argante


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which, in a few different ways, brings me to this: 

http://www.cagealotcastle.com/t40692198/guess-what-he-wants

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Well then Nic should have been perfectly happy in his first life, he said he had everything he wanted ,and therefore was not longing for anything else.



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