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Faery Queen of Cagealot Castle

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Two Nic films Red Rock West (1993) and Wild At Heart (1990) will be shown at the 59th San Sebastian Film Festival in a repertory series, ‘‘American Way of Death: American Film Noir 1990-2010’,’ devoted to the modern-day American film noir. 

Great to see both these equally uber worthy films appearing!

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"WILD AT HEART (1990), David Lynch
Road movies had never been as exciting and indomitable as this controversial adaptation of Barry Gifford’s novel by David Lynch. Ex-convict Sailor seduces Lula and they flee to California, not knowing that the young girl’s mother has taken a contract out on him. The couple leaves a trail of violence as they hot-foot it along American roads."

"RED ROCK WEST (1993), John Dahl
A master of noir film, John Dahl directs this splendid specimen of country noir demonstrating that life in the village isn’t much better than it is in the city. Nicolas Cage plays a loser caught up in a crazy plot when he’s mistaken for a hired killer… a confusion he does nothing to avoid."

 

Read more here: http://www.indiewire.com/article/2011/08/11/san_sebastian_to_feature_contemporary_film_noir_series



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That's great news, should be an interesting series, a lot of movies I like are film noir types. Wouldn't mind goig to San Sebastian to see it either!



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Me too Meg, it is funny but noir keeps cropping up lately, someone recommended me the book "The Girl With the Crystal Eyes" by Barabara Baraldi, got me thinking about the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo book and film series (but i talked about that elsewhere on the forum recently so won't elaborate here) then I stumbled across a progamme on italian noir that was very interesting, -what i love about it, or noir literature at least, especially italian, is it leaves an ambiguity and often unresolved ending, in a way where the author doesn't feel the need to repair the torn fabric of society, perhaps that is more of a realism... I don't know. Then I came across this Noir series at the San Sebastian Film Fest, which got me thinkng about Noir translated to or portrayed in film, i wonder if the edges are softened a little, for example italian noir iterature is less sympathetic to the mafia gangster, there is absolutely no sugaring of the pill, there is no glamorisation, as there is even in something like The Godfather, anyway.... back to Nic films...in Wild At Heart, the Lula and Sailor ending in the book was not as the film....it was far more noirish...and how about Red Rock West...I guess that ending was a resolution of sorts! Then,  thinking about detective and crime fiction as I was as a result of this italiam noir programme, I couldnt help thinking of our Bad Lieutenant..that has noirish elements, the ending isn't quite neatly tied up and clear cut, though perhaps ultimately our detective does save the day as far as the crime is concerned adn that is neatly concluded and resolved. anyway just rambles........

wondering on the difference between a thriller and a noir?



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That's great! I love both movies, I only didn't see the end of wild at heart yet.



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Interesting, I tend to use the word noir to decribe a movie with lots of dark undertones, especially if it involves unsavoury-type peole. Classic stuff from the forties. But Red Rock West, although it has all that, has something that makes it less noir to me, and I think it is because Michael as Nic portrays him is such a true character and he remains unbroken in the end. He does some iffy stuff, but he never really crosses the line. Also there is a lot of  humour in the movie. So I guess it is not a real noir movie to me, now that I actually think about it. But it is always described that way, maybe because of the plot and Dennis Hopper's awesome performance.

I haven't read any Italian noir, Lula, but it does sound interesting. The Scandinavian authors are having a field day right now in thriller/mystery books, talk about dark! Must be all that night time, affects their moods?

So no happy ending in the Wild at Heart book?



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now that..would be telling! and lol you crack me up lady T! hug I guess"noir" is the giveaway really....dark.

I wonder what makes the Italian so pessimistic in their noir lit., I always think of Italia as a happy place but apparently according to the authors they are not an optimistic nation, how anyone can generalise about entire people is is beyond me, I certainly do not know anyone who fits the British stereotype!

I agree with you utterly about Red Rock West, think it has been described as "neo noir"...perhaps that mean it has shades of noir about it. and I agree about Nic and he is not a noir actor in the sense that he has many shades within the same character.... that is his UAP ( unique acting point )

How about Bad Lieutenant then...is it noir? it has the elements, the crime the detective story and it is certainly dark.....

 Hang on a minute............ it is NOUVEAU NOIR !!!!!!!!  YEP YEP YEP that is it!!! chickendance



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Good one, Nouveau Noir, I like it! Yes, to me Bad Lieutenant is definitely a noir film.

Neo noir is used to describe noirish movies not from the forties and fifties, I believe. The true noir movie being things like Double Indemnity. If you want to get technical which I don't, but some movie phobes do.



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yeah..i cannot remember where i read that about RRW being neo noir, after a while the labels just sound like pretty strings of letters  that fly away on the breeze along with the meaning!  ( specially at this time of the evening! )yellowflowergrin

I think we may have the following posted somewhere already, but felt to be relevant.  The Bad lieutenant is described as "a new form or film noir" here ( think the phrase they're looking for is nouveau noir? )

http://www.guardian.co.uk/bad-lieutenant/nicolas-cage-eva-mendes-werner-herzog

love this sentence: "an example of cinematic alchemy in its most remarkable form."



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cinematic alchemy

Yes, that is a good description, isn't it?

I don't recall reading that before, glad you posted it, Lula.



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Just re-reading this thread! Maybe, as part of our Nictionary, we should have a list of descriptive phrases that are unique to Nic's acting genius. Such as the 'cinematic alchemy' he created with Herzog and the 'neauveau noir' (I think you coined this, Lula) magic of Bad Lieutenant. 

that is his UAP ( unique acting point nana.gif)

And this! Did you coin this, Lula? I like it!



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Good idea Lady True! flowerface Hmmmm... Nouveau Noir! I do wonder..if Nic is returning more to a noirish phase of his film work..certainly a thriller phase..and when does a thriller become a noir?!? 

I am sure I did not invent the phrase UAP, it just came to  me... and I  like it! It is a phrase that often ends up in my mind when thinking about Nic as an actor because he is highly unique and original in specificw ays, but perhaps it shoud be Unique Acting Points because he has more than one! starry



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