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Faery Queen of Cagealot Castle

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Cool article from The Guardian here, Again i have to say i am not gonna collude with the slagging off of the first film, because liked it, I loved how Nic portayed Johnny Blaze and i liked what Mark Steven Johnson did with it, but...I am beyond excitement for the new movie.. and it is just great read so much buzz about it! flaming

Why Ghost Rider deserves its reincarnation

Surely we're all queuing up to see Nicolas Cage 'channelling a cobra' as he sets fire to his head while riding a motorbike?

Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
Berserk, snarling, loopy ... Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Photograph: Sony Pictures

If ever there was a film that required a second go, it was 2007's Ghost Rider. It promised so much – at least as much as a film about a man with a burning head riding a motorbike up a skyscraper can promise – but it was bungled at almost every turn. The antagonist – Blackheart – was transformed from a snarling reptilian demon into someone who looked like he should be playing bass for My Chemical Romance. Eva Mendes could have been replaced with a bra on a stick and all Nicolas Cage did was eat jellybeans and appreciate The Carpenters in a silly wig.

But now it looks like we're getting the Ghost Rider we deserve in next year's Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Last month's Comic-Con may have featured the likes of Spider-Man, Spielberg and Prometheus, but there was a sense that the sneak peek at the Ghost Rider sequel captured the most hearts. Here's why:

The Crank connection

The first Ghost Rider was written and directed by Mark Steven Johnson, a man probably best known for writing Jack Frost, in which Michael Keaton played a bad-tempered snowman who loves his human son. But Spirit of Vengeance is different. Spirit of Vengeance is directed by Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor, who made Crank. Ridiculous, breathless, demented, brilliant Crank. If Neveldine and Taylor can capture half the energy of Crank – or coax a performance from Cage that's anywhere near as preposterous as the one they coaxed from Jason Statham – then Ghost Rider 2 might be very special indeed.

Nicolas Cage is still in it

The directors claim that Ghost Rider 2 is more reboot than sequel, but at least Nicolas Cage will return as Johnny Blaze. He's made 11 films since Ghost Rider was released, ranging from the berserk sci-fi of Next and Knowing to the barmy action of Drive Angry and Bangkok Dangerous. It's like he's been training for this. What's more, after the CG incarnation of the first film's hero, this time Cage will be playing Ghost Rider himself. This can only be a good thing, especially since Cage has spoken of "channeling a cobra" for the role. And what's the only thing better than watching Nicolas Cage act? Watching Nicolas Cage act like a snake while he sets his head on fire and drives a motorbike a bit too fast, that's what.

Cage wears a better wig

Viewers of the first Ghost Rider might remember the terrible wig Nicolas Cage was forced to wear as Johnny Blaze. Short, pushed forwards and weirdly boyish, it looked like that unfortunate period in 1997 when Tony Blair had his hair cut to look more like Caesar. This time around, however, Cage's wig is swept-back and age appropriate. It might not be a big thing, but it's definitely an improvement.

Idris Elba

The inclusion of Idris Elba in a film isn't a guarantee of quality – you only have to look at the likes of Obsessed or 28 Weeks Later to realise that – but at least you can be sure of a decent performance. Elba even managed to turn a thankless mythological sentry role in Thor into something worth watching. What he'll do with the part of Moreau, a kickass, alcoholic biker monk from France, is anyone's guess.

Early snippets

More than anything, though, there's the early word on Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance to go on. And it sounds absolutely loopy. Empire saw footage at Comic-Con and witnessed Cage "unleashing merry hell, spinning a baddie high up into the air on the end of a spectral chain, swallowing a hail of machine-gun fire and then spitting it back at some burly unfortunates, and, in one memorable shot, literally pissing fire". Neveldene and Taylor have said that "you will see real bones breaking in Ghost Rider, not CG bones". The whole thing sounds completely berserk. If it does end in failure, it sounds as if it will be the sort of glorious failure you'll remember for years to come.



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Nicalicious

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This alone will be worth the price of admission!!

...'unleashing merry hell, spinning a baddie high up into the air on the end of a spectral chain, swallowing a hail of machine-gun fire and then spitting it back at some burly unfortunates, and, in one memorable shot, literally pissing fire.'



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Faery Queen of Cagealot Castle

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yellowflowergrin Lady T, for me.... Nicolas Cage + Neveldine and Taylor = already in line! action

actually why complicate the equation...just...

Nicolas Cage.

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to mention this, but I did bring up my feelings for the first movie in response to this article, and how p'd off I am when people always get negative about it. So I just looked on Imdb and Mark Steven Johnson is listed as an exec producer, which is cool and makes the criticism ironic!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1071875/fullcredits#cast

Produced by
Ashok Amritraj....producer
Ari Arad....producer
Avi Arad....producer
Stefan Brunner....co-producer
Michael De Luca....producer
Gary Foster....executive producer
Manu Gargi....co-producer
David S. Goyer....executive producer
Mark Steven Johnson....executive producer
Steven Paul....producer
E. Bennett Walsh....executive producer


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Nicalicious

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I think that's cool too! Beats me why so much negativity about the movie, it was tremendously successful. Haters love to hate. I think they must live very sad lives.

On a side note, just looked up Alison Lohman the other day, was curious after seeing her in the Charlie Rose clips, and was surprised to read that she is married to Mark Neveldine!



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reelThis interview has taken on a new meaning of Ghost Rider; Spirit of Vengeance which is really different from Ghost Rider 1 totally new to me, looks bitchin' he he biggrin

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apologized, do know how to express my thanks

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Since I'm not a comic book fan, I really didn't understand the disconnect comic book fans may have had with the first Ghost Rider.  

All I know is, I truly enjoyed watching Cage play Johnny Blaze. 

To the critics:  Seriously PEOPLE, STOP JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON WITH THE SILLY HAIR THING - IT'S SOOOOOO YESTERDAY ALREADY!!!!!  Move on!!!!!!!!!!

I'm really looking forward to Spirit of Vengeance - Rock on Nic Cage!!!!!!!!!

 

 



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Faery Queen of Cagealot Castle

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LOL! ditto to that Gina! highfive I loved the particular nuances Nic brought to Johnny Blaze too, with the jelly beans and Karen Carpenter. And it is going to be equally awesome seeing the new John Blaze in the 'requel'! flaming

Tues,  I guess both Lady Trueheart ane myself are aware that two people having a conversation between themselves on a forum can seem a bit like it is excluding everyone else, and like to occasionally pause to take a breath, to encourage our other 117 members to join in the discussion! so thank you for doing so! starry



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I wouldn't say that Lula. you and Lady T are widely considered as the mainstay of our forum, Nobody would argue that both of you are conscientious & humble & benevolent & intelligent & upright, you deserve it. It's always so great to have the great honor of being the first person to read your insightful & influential posts, you know.

Thank you Lady Trueheart and Lula Argante, for creating this place for us Nicfan to talk and honor our mutual knight Nicolas Cage!!!



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thank you for your kind words Tues! flowerface upright?!?!  thud lol! rolllaugh your and our other members contributions are appreciated too! starry

It is NICe to hear other voices here and I would love to think that all our 118 members feel able to jump in when they like ! fairymagic

I know there are lots of mega Nic fans out there and getting back to the topic.. i wonder....if anyone reading this knows if the imdb entry of Mark Steven Johnson as Exec Producer of the new Ghost Rider movie is correct? i must admit i am intrigued!! flaming



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I am realy so glad the hair isn't the same!

and I'm so exited for the trailer! 

 



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