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Nicalicious

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I think parts of this sound familiar when I read it but I can't see it
anywhere in the forum. Apologies if already posted. It is really interesting to read.

http://www.examiner.com/movie-events-in-salt-lake-city/quantity-and-quality-defense-of-nicolas-cage-one-of-our-greatest-actors?cid=parsely#parsely

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"The truly great composers produce more masterpieces than the others, mainly because they produced more work overall. What distinguished them was not effortless genius or leisurely perfectionism, but relentless productivity." - Mark McGuinness
Nicolas Cage and Daniel Day-Lewis have a fair amount in common.
Born within less than a decade of each other (Cage was born in 1964, Day-Lewis in '57), both are among an elite few to have been nominated more than once for a Best Actor Oscar, each with a single win to his credit.
Day-Lewis became one of the most promising talents in British cinema in 1985, the year which saw the release of both A Room With A View and My Beautiful Laundrette, featuring two very different performances.
Cage had a similar double-header to kick-start his career in 1987, with Raising Arizona and Moonstruck, two classic films, with two classic (and, again, very different) Cage performances at their center.
Day-Lewis has worked with heavyweight directors like P. T. Anderson, Michael Mann, Jim Sheridan, Stephen Frears, James Ivory, Richard Attenborough, and Rob Marshall, while Cage has been directed by the likes of Werner Herzog, David Lynch, the Coen brothers, Oliver Stone, Ridley Scott, Brian De Palma, John Woo, and Spike Jonze (and both have been in Martin Scorsese films). Both actors are particularly noted for their explosive, energetic, smoldering, manic, and often very physical performances.
Daniel Day-Lewis is a virtually indisputable acting god, considered by many to be one of the best--if not the best--film actors in history, frequently placed alongside the likes of Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro. And rightly so.
Nicolas Cage I commonly hear described as "the worst actor ever".
What happened?
Well, in brief, Nicolas Cage has been in some pretty terrible movies. Let's face it--you're not going to find G-Force or The Wicker Man on Daniel Day-Lewis' resume.
Day-Lewis has twenty-seven credits on IMDb to Cage's sixty-three (with Day-Lewis' first credit appearing one whole decade before Cage's). Famous for his long gaps between work, Day-Lewis has been in exactly four films in the past ten years, and only five in the decade before that. Nicolas Cage, meanwhile, was in forty-nine.
We often speak of quantity and quality, usually when we want to dismiss the former. But for every Daniel Day-Lewis there are dozens of Nicolas Cages. Humphrey Bogart, for instance (you know, the guy from Casablanca, who topped AFI's list of the greatest actors some years ago), appeared in over eighty movies in his not-even-sixty years of life. His turns in The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and The African Queen, among others,are all justifiably legendary--great performances cemented in film history by the great films in which they appear. But how about Isle of Fury, or Battle Circus, or Chain Lightning, or The Return of Dr. X? Comparisons need not be limited to the world of film. We're told that practice makes perfect, and aspiring writers are told time and again to write every day, but every play Shakespeare wrote wasn't Hamlet.
Day-Lewis, the Terrence Malick of his craft, is consistent, even if he's not necessarily the most prolific. While not all of his roles are tour-de-forces, one could certainly argue that he's never given a bad performance on film. And, while one could maybe make the same argument for Cage, it would certainly be a lot tougher sell. Even if you're one of the handful of people who liked Knowing, there's just no getting around something like Next. Not only has he been in some bad movies, Cage has given bad performances. But, say what you will about his failures, Cage's successes must also be attributed to that same willingness to make bold choices, to go over-the-top. Again, like Daniel Day-Lewis, Nicolas Cage is not one to shy away from big. And he's given enough great performances to rival any actor of his generation.
Moonstruck. Raising Arizona. Vampire's Kiss. Wild at Heart. Honeymoon in Las Vegas. Leaving Las Vegas. Bringing Out the Dead. Adaptation. Matchstick Men. The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call, New Orleans.

You may not like all of these films. You may not like Nicolas Cage in all of these films. But one has to wonder, if, like Daniel Day-Lewis, Cage had only appeared in nine movies in twenty years, if the internet might not be equally awash with fanboys clamoring for word of the next Nicolas Cage flick. Whether you like all of them or not, those nine titles are, for my money, probably more impressive than any nine you could cull from DDL's filmography. In fact, I can't think of too many more actors with more impressive and versatile lead performances in more impressive and versatile films.
What this boils down to, in many ways, is an argument over evaluation. How does one judge a body of work? To bring up Shakespeare one more time, those proverbial monkeys typing at those proverbial typewriters eventually produce the Complete Works. Do too many bad performances negate the good ones? Do enough great ones make up for the bad ones? How many is enough?
Hank Aaron hit more home runs in his career than Babe Ruth, but he never had an amazing batting average. That said, a lot more people know Aaron than know John Stone, or Luke Appling (number one hundred and ninety-four, respectively, on the list of the hundred players with the highest batting averages, as of 2009).
How does one define greatness?
Cage may not have the batting average of a Daniel Day-Lewis, but I'd contend that he's hit just as many home runs. Personally, I'd rather watch Nicolas Cage give a "bad" performance than a lot of other actors give "good" ones. Cage--in spite of his enormous, possibly pandering resume--is always true to himself, and always interesting. Even in the dullest, most pedestrian effort like National Treasure, there are moments of brilliance. Early in that film, Cage delivers a monologue in which, over the course of less than two-and-a-half minutes, he somehow manages to convince himself (based on the flimsiest evidence imaginable) that there is a secret treasure map on the back of The Declaration of Independence. It's one of the worst bits of exposition I've ever seen in a movie, and Cage delivers it so beautifully that not only were audiences willing to somehow buy into this drivel enough to make the movie a smash at the box office, but that scene also works as a wonderful bit of self-parody of the family-action-adventure genre. Though I'd never care to sit through the movie again, I still occasionally look that scene up on youtube. It's brilliant. And it's entirely due to Cage's commitment to the hokiest of material.
But give him a great part and a great director, and watch him go to town. Cage won a Best Actor Oscar for his achingly real portrayal of the alcoholic protagonist in Leaving Las Vegas. He was nominated again for playing screenwriter Charlie (and his twin brother Donald) Kaufman in Adaptation, in which he creates two brilliant, fully-rounded characterizations. The characters are similar enough that we can see Donald as an extension of Charlie himself, and yet they remain entirely distinctive people. He has some brilliant comic moments playing opposite himself, and he brings the depth of feeling to Kaufman's script that John Cusack brought to Being John Malkovich, and Jim Carrey would to Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (those who think Cage can't do subtle need to give this film, particularly, another watch). Cage's passionate Italian lover in Moonstruck--who holds vengeance and Puccini equally dear--manages to feel both fresh and archetypal. In Raising Arizona, Cage creates one of the best, and certainly one of the funniest (his biggest competition is probably Jeff Bridges' Lebowski) protagonists in the Coen canon. Few films continue to make me laugh as hard or as frequently--but, again, there is real heart and sincerity in the performance, which grounds the off-the-wall screwballery in honest emotion (there are few moments more hilariously transcendent than Cage's final line in that film). While many dismiss Bringing Out the Dead as one of Martin Scorsese's weakest films, I've always felt it's one of his best--and, once again, Cage shows his ability both in the quieter, more tender moments, and in his explosions of energy and madness. His work in Vampire's Kiss is quite simply one of the best and most inventive performances I've ever seen on film. Like Jimmy Stewart, many of Cage's best roles exploit his believable everyman persona (The Family Man, for example), while making use of his exceptional ability to channel madness (as Herzog would in his Bad Lieutenant--one of Cage's best performances to date, and easily one of the best performances of 2009). Cage works in comedies, dramas, thrillers, science-fiction, horror, family films, animated films, art films, you name it.
Which brings me to my last point. Cage works. If he's been in a lot of terrible movies--he's also been in a lot of great ones. Not only does he take risks, but he is more prolific than almost any of his peers. "I'm just trying to open things up, find new sounds and look for new gesture and form in film acting," Cage says of his work in a recent interview with Cinematical's Todd Gilchrist. "And that's going to inevitably be met with confusion or assumptions, or enjoyment." Before he gives a great performance, Daniel Day-Lewis spends months and years preparing, living the part, getting inside the character. Where Day-Lewis takes an extremely psychological approach to acting, Cage is something of a formalist. Before Cage gives a great performance in a great film, he tends to give a number of mediocre performances in mediocre movies. Such tends to be the nature of experimentation--and of practice. Cage is constantly practicing, stretching his boundaries, trying new things, never afraid of shredding his reputation. One might call that selling out, but I see in it a kind of courage. And perhaps it's easier to forgive Cage's missteps when we recognize the soaring peaks of his work--and that it is this same incredible endurance, work ethic, and obsessive commitment to craft that is responsible for both Ghost Rider and Adaptation.
Decades from now, few people will remember Ghost Rider. Few people will remember G-Force or Bangkok Dangerousor Captain Corelli's Mandolin. But people will still be watching Moonstruck, and Raising Arizona, and Adaptation, and The Bad Lieutenant. And, at that point, I expect very few people will refer to Nicolas Cage as the worst actor ever.


-- Edited by Lady Trueheart on Tuesday 15th of February 2011 04:12:09 PM

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Two Thumbs UPhighfive

Thank you for posting!


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I think this is new to me Lady True, thanks for posting! flowerface

The title gets a double thumbs up... quality and quantity describes Nic's body of work well, for me! film
I will read it again when I have less of a fluffy head on. but first impressions of the article that follows are one and a half thumbs up, it is always NICe to see someone acknowledging Nic as an awesome and unique actor, and anyone who writes:
His work in Vampire's Kiss is quite simply one of the best and most inventive performances I've ever seen on film. has to be my long lost twin!! and do do do do... more synchronicity... I changed my avatar earlier to a very Peter Loew looking pic that always reminds me of Vampire's Kiss! furious.gif

But... I do have my slight reservations about the absolute truths being presented here as to which are good and bad films, again. I personally love NEXT and Knowing! and Ghost Rider flaming

Also, I wonder, has the world become almost snobbish about the films it classifies as good? like a divide between more actorly / dramatic and sci fi / fantasy type flick with the latter seen somehow as second rate? spaceship

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The world has always been snobbish, Lula.

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   Great read and thanks for posting this amazing article.  I am glad some people realize that Nicolas is still the most bold and fearless actor of his generation.  Not being afraid to cross genre and do 3D film and put a new spin on his roles.  Other actors like Sean Penn only do drama because they are afraid of exposing their flaws and showing their weakness.  Nic has flaws and weaknesses in acting as does every actor, but he still pushes himself to the limit.  On a sidenote: I do like Penn's "UTurn" but I thought it took slightly from Wild at Heart.  Luv ya Nic keep up the great and diverse films.smile

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The fact that Nic is so fearless in his choice of roles and the sheer productivity he puts out along with his fearlessness in his character portrayals amazes me.   There really is no other artist quite like him.

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It is true, he is unique. I cannot think of any actor who can be compared to him. I love that about him. And the author says of him.... incredible endurance, work ethic, and obsessive commitment to craft...how true.

I am always amazed at how generalized these people are in their comments on movies, so many people love and enjoy the movies that they are bashing, it is just ridiculous to dismiss them so matter of factly. Guess we are all just plebes compared to the so discerning critics. And let's not forget National Treasure, Lula, one of the most popular movies ever, and yet this guy and others really denigrate it. I personally love the NT movies, they are great entertainment. He also says decades from now people won't remember Ghost Rider, that is also ridiculous.
And I am not so sure Nic can be described as a formalist in his acting approach. Not with that jazz approach he has!

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Saying that Nic is 'formulaic' in anything is completely ABSURD to me.  The man.....is anything BUT formulaic!

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Agree with you all! fearless and totally unformulaic describe Nic as ana ctor really well lady Fay!

Lady True...yes, Yes, YES!! apart from the fact that we are plebes! lol!! yellowflowergrin
Actually the biggest criticism that seems to get thrown at Nic fans when they like a movie that 'apparently' the genersl public do not, is that we watch with rose tinted spectacles and without discernment which is pretty insulting! and i put :apparently' because in my view it is not as clear cut that the mouth pieces of the media represent the public consensus, look at Ghost Rider...a box office ultra smash.. so although the majority voice was silent in the media, it was louder than the naysayers ranting in the end..Season Of The Witch is another example, when I log into twitter your average person who goes to see the movie says they enjoyed the film, but the critics are out on a Nic Witch hunt over it!
Also, as we have spoken about before on the forum, there is a lot of followig the crowd and jumping on the bashing Nic bandwagon by people who just love to do that becase it is somehow perceived as cool. if every single person just said they didnt like a film for this or that reason, rather then the usual ignorant diatribe that usually comes with it things would be far different than they are!

So yeah that is my niggle with it, sorry by the way if everyone is getting bored of that point of view, chortlebut i will say it over and over agian for as long as people are presenting absolute truths about Nic's work! furious.gif

and...Totally! The National Treasure films are world loved EPICS! It would amuse if it weren't so annoying that the 'it is crap' assumption just gets slipped in casually in articles as if we're all in silent consensus. NOT so Mr!! (talking of which ...aching for news on NT3 again!!)

and don't even start me on Ghost Rider Meg! You know i love the film! flamingto say it will be forgotton is simply untrue! Nic brought the Marvel character to life in film, filmthe birth of Ghost Rider on the screen will remain in the memory of the fans forever, as will his first transformation and so on. Ghost Rider may not be as large in the collective consciousness as Batman batman.gif or Superman, but he is like the anti slick more underground version smouldering there in the wings ...and when 2012 comes, Ghost Rider will be the superhero indelibly etched in the movie going mind! flaming oh ....Iam SOOOO excited! *bursts into flames of joyful delirium*

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I don't think the author was saying he is formulaic, at least I did not see that in the article?

Formalist is what he said, which, as far as I understand the term, is to adhere to formal, traditional methods. The form, rather than the meaning, being important. But I have only heard this word in relationship to painters, not acting, so I am not quite sure what the author is getting at.


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I   love    that    look!   Nic    holding   the   handcuffs,     reminds   me   of   Mr.   Grinch.
He's      realy    good ,   I    would   love    to    see   this   movielips
He's    really   entertaining,   I    Love   it!!

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I would recommend it Candi Apple, Bad Lieutenant is a film not to be missed! starry

I totally missed the formalist / formulaic comment White Fay and Lady True, am i getting this correctly the writer is saying this is what nic is? but totally agree with you both ... in fact he is about as unformulaic and unformalist as you can get! how can you describe such diversity and consistently mixing it up and voyaging into new territory in that way? I would say that Nic is the actor of all actors constantly tryng to push the boundaries of any formula, not stick religiously to a method at all...which is what i underatand formalist and formulaic to mean.

seems contradictory to say on the one hand Nic  is formulaic and on the other:

Not only does he take risks, but he is more prolific than almost any of his peers. "I'm just trying to open things up, find new sounds and look for new gesture and form in film acting," Cage says of his work

Cage is constantly practicing, stretching his boundaries, trying new things, never afraid of shredding his reputation

I agree with that!

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